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 on: Yesterday at 08:51:36 PM 
Started by sklunk - Last post by GoldEnclave
Looks promising.

 2 
 on: Yesterday at 05:10:39 PM 
Started by sklunk - Last post by small batch
that reminds me of a Mazda Cx-9 


My first impression as well Happy

 3 
 on: Yesterday at 04:37:40 PM 
Started by sklunk - Last post by rbarrios
that reminds me of a Mazda Cx-9 


 4 
 on: Yesterday at 03:10:26 PM 
Started by msaz17 - Last post by msaz17
Spoke with my contact at the dealer today regarding the fact that they had already resealed the front engine cover less than 20K miles ago.  Was told that since the earlier resealing repair was covered under the powertrain warranty there was now warranty on the repair once the powertrain warranty expired.  My contact then discussed the situation with the service manager.  I was told the service manager spoke with the "regional warranty rep" and they came back offering to perform the resealing for $520.00 + tax (was previously quoted $1,580.00 +tax).  Clearly the previous resealing job was subpar.  Now do I pay the $520.00 and let them have another shot at it and cross my fingers that this time it is done correctly?

 5 
 on: Yesterday at 03:04:00 PM 
Started by sklunk - Last post by zman
I know it's not much but I like it so far.

 6 
 on: Yesterday at 02:04:53 PM 
Started by sklunk - Last post by Sailfish
I was sent this link over the weekend.  To me, I first thought it was a Cadillac SUV.  Looks kind of boxy, in a way like my old 07 Saturn Outlook.

Well the link I was sent, and I cannot find it right now, had more than just one photo.

 7 
 on: Yesterday at 01:45:19 PM 
Started by sklunk - Last post by sklunk
Buick has released an early teaser of the new Enclave.  The full reveal will be at the New York show on April 11th (pic below but click this link for more info):

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2017/03/2018-buick-enclave-teased-will-usher-in-avenir-sub-brand-for-north-america/


 8 
 on: Yesterday at 09:57:51 AM 
Started by TFL850-redux - Last post by wvuguy
How pathetic. You still don't understand why your enclave sucks. It's because it's completely made in the US by lazy American workers. "Buick Enclave Is Most American Of All Cars" be pround of it.   You would have been able to keep it for 10-12 years if it were made in China.

247wallst.com/autos/2016/07/03/buick-enclave-is-most-american-of-all-cars

Open your eyes. China is way ahead of US in terms of manufacturing capabilities. You will never get good quality at very low price, no matter where it is made. But you get way better quality from stuffs made in China if you are willing to pay the similar price.

Strictly speaking, your generalized assertion about American workers couldn't be more inaccurate.  High quality is a function of a number of factors, all of which have to mesh.  Design, sourcing, logistics, manufacturing, distribution, retail, and service all have to come together to generate a positive ownership experience for the buyer.   And only a comparatively small percentage of that has to do with the goings-on at the assembly line.

Focusing solely on your claim about American (assembly-line) worker, it became clear decades ago that American workers can assemble/build a vehicle every bit as well as the best non-American labor.  It was all about the fundamental manufacturing process;  built into the (in particular) Japanese philosophy was the creation of a workplace environment where the employee was respected, and was fully part of the process.  This is something the domestic manufacturers took a fair amount of time to embrace.  

Years later....and since I'm no longer employed an automotive supplier......I'm not sure FCA, Ford, and GM have ever implemented these kinds of systems quite to Honda and Toyota's extent.  But the Japanese imports proved absolutely beyond a shadow of a doubt that American workers could build their highest volume vehicles every bit as good as those imported from their homeland.  Said another way, you give the American worker a stake in his future (and his success) comparable to his foreign counterpart, and the improvements follow essentially by definition.  Of course, as I said before, assembly labor is only one component of a much larger proposition.

BTW, none of that has anything to do with Trump.

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 on: Yesterday at 09:29:02 AM 
Started by TFL850-redux - Last post by wvuguy
I just think it's probably a good idea to wait on a vehicle that barely came out for at least one or two model years. I know that not every vehicle when they first introduced will have problems but I just think it's a good idea to wait a few model years for manufacturers to work their kinks and bugs out. But that's not to say every automakers are perfect. Take the current Tacoma for example, even though Toyotas are bulletproof, the current Tacoma have customers complaining about the new 6speed transmission and toyotas have service bulletin for that. Same for the Cherokees. Heck even my cousin wants that brand new compass and I have to told her to wait on it.

With the possible exception of electronics.....whose problems are pretty widespread in themselves......is there anything that generates more universal disdain these days than transmissions ?? 

From what I can tell.....and vic's Tacoma reference not withstanding.....6-speeds seem currently to represent the absolute top of the design food chain in terms of long-term reliability.  More than that and the issues across most OEM's seem pretty much universal.  I guess I've assumed that's because there's so much joint development these days among the OEM's on new tranny designs (most of which are comparatively faulty out of the box).  And, even if (some) CVT's seem more reliable, there's that very vocal group (particularly in the media) who find them singularly distasteful in terms of their effect on performance.

Anyway, back to vic's post......given FCA's fairly lousy track record on quality (both new and long-term), I too would almost certainly council someone to give them a fairly wide berth for probably the first 2 years of any new design.  And I think most around here feel that way about new GM designs;  though I'm equally sure there are folks around here dying to be the first in their neighborhoods to bring home a Gen 2 Enclave. 

 10 
 on: March 21, 2017, 07:11:05 PM 
Started by leondegrance - Last post by rillo71
Yes! And no problem on the sharing of information...... Cheers

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