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Author Topic: 09 Buick Enclave sputtering uphill  (Read 5136 times, 13 Replies)
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« on: February 28, 2013, 09:57:48 PM »

Hi all-

I am new, this is my first post. I have owned my Enclave just over a month and just in the past week or so I have noticed some sputtering when accelerating uphill, as if it is jerking, not wanting to accelerate. any ideas? Thanks...oh it has 74,000 miles and no cel.
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2013, 10:10:09 PM »

With that mileage, I would guess coil packs.

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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2013, 10:37:35 PM »

Pretty sure a coil pack is going out if you haven't got a CEL yet
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2013, 02:28:20 AM »

We had the same issue (twice) and it ended up being the coil packs (ours is a 2009 as well).  A little over $400 was the quote on the the last one.  facepalm

The first time we had the issue we were covered under our bumper to bumper, it actually triggered the CEL that time.  The 2nd time, we were at about 42,000 miles and they were in the giving spirit and covered it for free (it did not trigger the CEL).

Good luck!  I believe we've had 4 of the 6 go out.  A little frustrating, but so far has not cost us anything  Cheers

Oh...and welcome to the forum!   Welcome

Hopefully your dealership will fix it out of goodwill considering you haven't had it that long?  If not, I would not get stressed or doubt your choice in vehicle.  The Enclave is a great vehicle and you will definitely enjoy it...even if the coil packs do go out!
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2013, 11:54:01 AM »

Thanks, the dealer is not feeling in a giving mood, they told me I could have the problem diagnosed for $102, if it was spark plugs or something it'd be $400. I am taking it to another place that said they'd diagnose for $24.99, then hopefully my husband can fix it. I will let you know what we determine it is for future reference!

We are enjoying it but I make my first payment this week, not looking forward to having to spend another $400 to get it running right on top of that!
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2013, 02:19:27 PM »

Thanks, the dealer is not feeling in a giving mood, they told me I could have the problem diagnosed for $102, if it was spark plugs or something it'd be $400. I am taking it to another place that said they'd diagnose for $24.99, then hopefully my husband can fix it. I will let you know what we determine it is for future reference!

We are enjoying it but I make my first payment this week, not looking forward to having to spend another $400 to get it running right on top of that!
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I apologize for the inconvenience caused by this issue. If you would like us to look into the situation with the dealership, feel free to PM us but include your VIN#, name, situation, dealership, contact information, and mileage. I hope this can be resolved quickly for you. Regards.

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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2013, 03:33:26 PM »

Thanks, the dealer is not feeling in a giving mood, they told me I could have the problem diagnosed for $102, if it was spark plugs or something it'd be $400. I am taking it to another place that said they'd diagnose for $24.99, then hopefully my husband can fix it. I will let you know what we determine it is for future reference!

We are enjoying it but I make my first payment this week, not looking forward to having to spend another $400 to get it running right on top of that!
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If you husband is mechanically-inclined, I would change the spark plugs and the ignition coils on all 6 cylinders and be done with maintenance on the ignition system for awhile.  The spark plugs are meant for 100k miles, but if you are encountering mis-firing (sputtering), to access one cylinder is the same level-of-effort required to access the other 5 cylinders.  And like the others have said, probably one of the ignition coils is bad.  For 2009, which is a direct ignition, to access ALL the plug & coils, the Intake Manifold needs to be removed, which is not too complicated (I provided screenshots of the removal/installation procedure in one of the threads in the Traverse forum).

Even if you have to rely on an Independent Mechanic, you'll be way ahead of the game if all the coils ($56 each) and plugs ($7 each) are replaced.  Without a CEL, you'll be chasing the misfire.
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2013, 03:46:47 PM »

I believe there are updated part numbers for the coils?  I think...

But to save money-- get them on ebay or amazon or something...
then replace.
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2013, 05:36:53 PM »

I believe there are updated part numbers for the coils?  I think...

But to save money-- get them on ebay or amazon or something...
then replace.

Or get the Wells coils @ www.rockauto.com:

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1184217&cc=1444052
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2013, 05:38:52 PM »

Thanks, the dealer is not feeling in a giving mood, they told me I could have the problem diagnosed for $102, if it was spark plugs or something it'd be $400. I am taking it to another place that said they'd diagnose for $24.99, then hopefully my husband can fix it. I will let you know what we determine it is for future reference!

We are enjoying it but I make my first payment this week, not looking forward to having to spend another $400 to get it running right on top of that!
Thanks!

I consider this to be pretty crappy on the part of the dealer not to offer a goodwill fix of something like that within 30 days of purchase.  Is it a GM dealer?
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2013, 06:16:23 PM »

I consider this to be pretty crappy on the part of the dealer not to offer a goodwill fix of something like that within 30 days of purchase.  Is it a GM dealer?
On a used car?  Really?  Is there not a statement that customers sign, "as-is" no warranty?  I understand the frustration, but if people don't like this either buy new, or buy some sort of warranty.  I don't think the whole "good will" thing should apply to used vehicles.
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2013, 08:31:05 PM »

If it is a GM dealer then I would think they would try and help out in some way...maybe cut the bill in half.  I understand the risk of a used car b/c that is all I will buy.  With that said, if it is a dealer looking to sell another car to these guys in a few years, this would be an ideal way to exceed their expectations out of the gates.  At least split the bill maybe...I'm talking about trying to create some customer loyalty.  I don't think the customer should have the expectation, but to create the loyalty it's about going over and above their expectations.  Just my 2 cents...which many have said are valued at less than 1 cent Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2013, 09:11:03 PM »

One of the main reasons to purchase a "Certified Used Vehicle" from a GM dealership that would give you a 12 month warranty.
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2013, 01:08:09 AM »

It's a vehicle that's 26000 miles past the original warranty. Unless there was some type of warranty, like a dealer's 90 day warranty, I wouldn't expect the dealer to do anything but feel sorry for me.
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