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« Reply #500 on: June 19, 2012, 11:09:42 PM »

Currently the only Pennzoil oil product that carries the dexos1 approved logo is the Syn-Blend 5W30. There still may be some PP stock left at stores that has the dexos1 approved logo but the new bottles no longer claims dexos1 approved. I suspect SOPUS decided to limit their royalty liability by reducing the oils that are dexos1 certified. This does not mean PP, PU, and Quaker State products do not meet or exceed the specs but it does mean SOPUS is not going to pay GM X per bottle to carry the dexos1 logo.

If you check around you will see that some of the oil companies that have elected not to pay GM a royalty state on their web site something to the effect, for use in vehicles where dexos1 is recommended or meets or exceed dexos1 requirements. I guess they took queues from Amsoils where they say "recommended for....." vs "certified".           
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« Reply #501 on: June 19, 2012, 11:24:05 PM »

Check the dexos1 website. Both Pennzoil Platinum and Pennzoil 5W-30 Synthetic Blend are listed.
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« Reply #502 on: June 19, 2012, 11:52:23 PM »

Check the dexos1 website. Both Pennzoil Platinum and Pennzoil 5W-30 Synthetic Blend are listed.

I understand but the Pennzoil website no longer mentions PP as being dexos1 approved. Again, this does not mean PP no longer meets the requirements but more likely, SOPUS simply decided to no longer pay the royalty.
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« Reply #503 on: June 20, 2012, 03:43:12 AM »

I understand but the Pennzoil website no longer mentions PP as being dexos1 approved. Again, this does not mean PP no longer meets the requirements but more likely, SOPUS simply decided to no longer pay the royalty.

The link before, message dated 6/02/12, was not showing the PP and now it is.  Perhaps PP has not upgraded their website.  

True PP does meet the requirements based on the specifications listed on their website.

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« Reply #504 on: July 11, 2012, 11:45:06 AM »

I've commented on this overall subject many times over the years, especially the frequency of oil changes. Here's an article from the July/August "AARP Bulletin" (page 21).
"CARS, #8. Over-oiled.
Getting an oil change every 3,000 miles is so 20th century. Newer models use synthetic oils that last 7,500 miles or more. Go to checkyournumber.org for the recommended oil change interval for 2000 models or newer."
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« Reply #505 on: July 11, 2012, 12:37:55 PM »

HA!!!

that website is right!!!

I ran the number for my 2003 Trailblazer with inline 6.

It says up to 12,000 miles....

It is correct.
While it was my daily driver-- I would go 10,500 to 11,500 miles between oil changes.. (on regular Valvoline dino oil).
On one of my Used oil analysis- it showed the oil had enough left in it- to go up to about 12,000.

I also did my 2010 Traverse... it showed 7500. which sounds right.
I change my oil at 5000. UOA show it can go a little further.
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« Reply #506 on: July 14, 2012, 07:27:17 AM »

Going to get the oil changed this morning--for $39.95 Mobil 1 (3rd time at that price, with $10 debit card), rather let them do it and I'll DIY on the other two cars.  thumbs up
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« Reply #507 on: July 14, 2012, 10:15:27 AM »

That is a great price. Does it include oil, filter, labor, and disposal fees?
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« Reply #508 on: August 20, 2012, 04:34:20 PM »

I use 100% synthetic Amsoil in both my Buicks, a '08 Lacrosse Super and my '11 Enclave FWD CXL. Not to bore you but I also use it in my son's Ram truck & motorcycle, my 28' boat, lawn mower, generator. I started using it in my '09 Enclave and several other previous cars I had owned. I have 30k on my 2011 Enclave and change my oil every 25,000 miles or once a year which ever come first.

I put in synthetic oil after the first 500 miles on every vehicle. They all run with no problems, cooler-less friction and better fuel mileage. I know my engines will never seize nor burn oil using Amsoil, its got the best rating of any oil on the market. It was obe of the first to manufacture synthetic oil.

Go to Amsoil.com and for 20 bucks a year you become a preferred customer getting a 20% discount on all their products. The have oil filters, air filters, fuel additives go to their web site and check it out. You can sit home and purchase your stuuf on the computer or look up local sellers and go to their location to purchase your supplies.

I did the research and went as far as changing the auto transmission fluid on all the vehicles doing a transmission flush with fresh fluid so I am running 100% on everything!
Just my own choice and preference.
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« Reply #509 on: August 20, 2012, 04:45:56 PM »

next time you change your oil at 1yr or 25,000--- get a Used oil analysis...
Id like to see how your 09 DI- is doing with Amsoil.

(lf im not mistaken- someone posted a UOA with Amsoil-- and Amsoil got the snot beat out of it by an 09 or 10 DI)..
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« Reply #510 on: August 20, 2012, 05:13:46 PM »

I'm not going to get into a debate here. I offered my opinion and what I had known from my own use over the years. We still have free choice here and until that changes anyone may make their own decision as to what they buy and use. This is why we have several choices on oil to use in our vehicles. You may choose whatever you want. like I said my vehicles are running fine and do not use oil and have not caused any mechanical problems. That may be due to good luck or that i take care of my rides and don't abuse them.
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« Reply #511 on: August 20, 2012, 06:22:30 PM »

You really can't beat Amsoil
I just put PP in the Enclave and I am curious to see how it does
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« Reply #512 on: August 20, 2012, 06:31:54 PM »

I'm not going to get into a debate here. I offered my opinion and what I had known from my own use over the years. We still have free choice here and until that changes anyone may make their own decision as to what they buy and use. This is why we have several choices on oil to use in our vehicles. You may choose whatever you want. like I said my vehicles are running fine and do not use oil and have not caused any mechanical problems. That may be due to good luck or that i take care of my rides and don't abuse them.

A newbie posting almost immediately with what appears to be an attitude. I would suggest that you should maybe take a little time to learn the people on the site before you post with an attitude. rbarrios is suggesting you get a UOA because he has evidently seen information in the past that Amsoil did not fare very well in the DI 3.6; he's one of the very helpful people on this site. Your engine tends to be very hard on oil but, as you suggested, it's your choice as to what you do with your vehicle. I, for one, would want to have a little peace of mind rather than blindly trust on past experience with Amsoil. I have used Mobil 1 for years but have switched to Pennzoil Platinum based on UOA results for the 3.6.
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« Reply #513 on: August 20, 2012, 07:30:00 PM »

agreed....that is why i switched
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« Reply #514 on: August 21, 2012, 11:28:07 PM »

I also agree about Pennzoil Platinum. That is why I use Pennzoil Platinum and why it is pretty popular among the forum members.
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« Reply #515 on: August 22, 2012, 08:16:43 AM »

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« Reply #516 on: October 14, 2012, 01:28:46 PM »

Just bought a 2008 Enclave with 48,000 miles.  The previous owner was near anal on its care.  I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler, I bought it new, and it now has 210,000 miles.  I used M1 from the first oil change.  The Enclave has been serviced at the local dealership and has always used dino.  My question...the way that I drive the Enclave, nothing like the Wrangler,  do I need to change to a synthetic.  It will be garaged all winter, never driven.  For what an M1 change costs, I can change dino twice as often and get a free car wash each time.  I will drive around 6000 to 7000 miles per year.  The area of Tennessee where I live rarely exceeds 90 degress in the summer.

Under these conditions, do I REALLY need to switch to a synthetic.  Thanks...
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« Reply #517 on: October 14, 2012, 01:55:39 PM »

IMO dino does just fine as long as you change it every 5K miles or less. My last OA at 45K was outstanding. 
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« Reply #518 on: October 14, 2012, 02:35:16 PM »

IMO dino does just fine as long as you change it every 5K miles or less. My last OA at 45K was outstanding. 

Just like in the case of JerseyDevil, an excellent source of feedback is a Universal Oil Analysis (UOA).  The analysis will provide the health of the used oil removed at time of the oil change.  For $25 ($35 with TBN), it's cheap insurance.

A good lab for UOA's:

www.blackstone-labs.com

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« Reply #519 on: October 14, 2012, 02:46:51 PM »

Thanks to you both.  I just ordered the free oil sample kit.
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