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post #1 of 40 (permalink) Old 08-09-2011, 11:51 AM Thread Starter
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Saw this article and I know there are several members across the forums who use a Smartphone app to start their vehicle from their phones.

Car Starting Remote Or App Could Expose You To A Hacker
August 9, 2011 7:26 AM

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/201...u-to-a-hacker/

PHILADELPHIA (CBS) – It is supposed to be the height of convenience — a remote or smartphone app that starts you car and controls some of its functions. But, like most technology, it has its weaknesses — and this one could expose you to a whole different kind of carjacker.

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I could be wrong, but I don't think you can drive the Enclave after remote starting without putting an actual key in the ignition. Now, unlocking the doors remotely might be a different story...
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Luckily we live in Philly, and carjackers still do things the old-fashioned way.

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I could be wrong, but I don't think you can drive the Enclave after remote starting without putting an actual key in the ignition. Now, unlocking the doors remotely might be a different story...
Though I am not sure, I am inclined to agree with you.

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Was not implying directly that the Enclave could be driven off just that the technology could be hacked which is what was within the article/link provided.

But what happens when a hacker gets his hands on it?

“We were able to unlock the doors remotely, and we were able to start the engine. And if we wanted to, we could have driven off with the vehicle,” said Don Bailey of iSEC Partners, a security consultancy company.

Bailey was able to take control of a Subaru that had an ignition and security system with a remote cellular connection. But, he says, it could work on other similarly equipped cars on the market and worse.

“They can also perform the same attack against critical infrastructure that we use day-to-day to ensure lives are running smoothly,” Bailey said.

He says some traffic lights, ATMs, even water treatment plants that use the same technology are vulnerable because companies have let cell network security slide to cut production and consumer costs.

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Was not implying directly that the Enclave could be driven off just that the technology could be hacked which is what was within the article/link provided.

But what happens when a hacker gets his hands on it?

“We were able to unlock the doors remotely, and we were able to start the engine. And if we wanted to, we could have driven off with the vehicle,” said Don Bailey of iSEC Partners, a security consultancy company.

Bailey was able to take control of a Subaru that had an ignition and security system with a remote cellular connection. But, he says, it could work on other similarly equipped cars on the market and worse.

“They can also perform the same attack against critical infrastructure that we use day-to-day to ensure lives are running smoothly,” Bailey said.

He says some traffic lights, ATMs, even water treatment plants that use the same technology are vulnerable because companies have let cell network security slide to cut production and consumer costs.

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We are always told to have our home/business wireless safeguarded which we do. As for our smartphones and such we depend on our carrier to safeguard their technology for us.

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The more complex life becomes, the more we must rely upon others to do the right thing. Unfortunately, this is not always the case.

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The more complex life becomes, the more we must rely upon others to do the right thing. Unfortunately, this is not always the case.
Yep...so true. :P

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We are always told to have our home/business wireless safeguarded which we do. As for our smartphones and such we depend on our carrier to safeguard their technology for us.
Do you know how many people still believe to this day that WEP keys are a form of security to their wireless networks? Or they hide their SSIDs thinking if they do that, others can't see it. So many misconceptions. (hint: anybody with a droid or iPhone, and a free app, can break it in about a minute)

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