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post #1 of 56 (permalink) Old 02-02-2019, 11:46 AM Thread Starter
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Calling all 2019 Avenir's...

...do you love it? Any problems with it? Is it worth the extra money over the Chevy Traverse High Country? What do you not like about it?
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post #2 of 56 (permalink) Old 02-03-2019, 07:47 AM
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I guess you know why they make 37 flavors of ice cream? With that being said, I LOVE THE AVENIR!

We sold our 2008 Enclave to buy this vehicle. We waited patiently for 2 months for it to get here. Obviously there have been many updates since the 08! LOL

I read a lot of reviews before the purchase. There were a few complaints about features missing, and etc. But buying a car is like buying a house that someone else built. There is very rarely one that will have everything that you want. So at the end of the day you have to decide what is important to you and what are the features that you can not live without.

We had to have the adaptive cruise control. We had it in a Chrysler and we loved it. The upgraded suspension is awesome. This vehicle feels solid and it is quiet.

Even though I did a lot of research, it does things that I did not know about. As a matter of fact, there are so many things that you can customize, that I have not figured them all out. When you start the vehicle, the heated seats and steering wheel come on if it is cold. The vented seats come on if it is hot. The lock can lock automatically when you walk away from the vehicle. I love this feature. The cameras and large screen are fantastic. No more opening the door to see how close you are to the parking line! We also love the camera in the rear view mirror.

And as with any vehicle it has things that I could care less about. The sun roof to me is worthless, but can not be excluded at this trim level. WIFI, not needed.

For the price there are some things missing. Rain sensing wipers. Button operated sun roof. Fog lights. I am not sure why on the fog lights. Maybe they are not needed.

We highlighted all of the features that we had to have in the list in the back of the book. We then noted ones that we wanted, but could live without. In the end we had to have the Avenir.

I am sure the car manufacturers have a plan to get more money from us by combining options in bundles and trim levels to force unwanted features on us.

We have been driving our 2019 for 3 weeks and everyone who has ridden it it loves it! I would do it all over again.
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post #3 of 56 (permalink) Old 02-04-2019, 02:51 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you for taking the time to provide a great picture of your experience with the 2019. There are many things I like about it and have done a lot of research. I didn't know about the "missing" fog lights, I would have missed that entirely. Being in New England and near the ocean, we have quite a bit of fog and use our fog lights regularly. That's a great point for us to ponder in our pro's and con's. Thanks again!
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post #4 of 56 (permalink) Old 02-05-2019, 06:35 AM
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We actually had to go out in the fog yesterday morning. We experienced zero problems. Seems like fog lights are no longer needed with the configuration of the new lights. There are other high dollar vehicles leaving them off.
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Might not technically be needed, but they look cool, and for $50-60K they should have included some features just because they're cool.
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post #6 of 56 (permalink) Old 02-06-2019, 10:55 AM
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Just took delivery last night of a 2019 Satin Steel/Ebony Avenir AWD with tech package and towing. Haven't even had it 24 hours so my experience so far is very limited, but my first impression is that it's a nice vehicle and we're happy with it overall.

I was already aware of the annoying deficiencies that have been discussed in other posts, so I won't complain about them here. I will say though that the lack of interior ambient lighting is worse than I expected. There are tiny, white, dim LEDs in the front door handles and a couple in the front dash, but that's it. Nothing in the rear, nothing in the foot wells, nothing overhead. Very bland and not befitting of this level of vehicle.

Regarding my previous post about the lack of fog lamps, the Enclave has LEDs around the turn signal area so you do get some "coolness". I didn't know this before we took delivery and was pleasantly surprised.

On a nit picky level, I don't prefer the color scheme of the displays. Both the driver display and the infotainment screen are predominantly an unpleasant teal and orange. It looks cheap and downscale compared to most every other brand. Just my opinion though.

Also, the second row seats are flat, hard, and not very comfortable, and the third row seats are even worse. I realize third row seats aren't intended to be great, but these are really bad. Very hard and instead of there being a slight depression to settle into, the center of the seats feel like they protrude upwards. I actually got up and checked underneath me to see if I had sat on something when I first sat back there.

Beyond the known issues and some subjective opinions, it feels solid, handles well, and has met our expectations. Will post updates as we get more miles.

Never thought I would own a GM product so hopefully everything goes well.
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Congratulations on your new ride. Here's hoping you get many good miles with it.

I am wondering if they've changed things a bit in the 2019 models. I like the displays. The only orange I see in the DIC is a brief, small orange strip when a notification pops up. I don't see any on the nav screen. Also, I definitely have lighting in the second row and there is a bright light on the liftgate that lights up the entire rear area unless the third row seats are up. I agree that they could have lit up the footwells better. I haven't noticed any protrusions in the second row seats.

Here's a shot of what my display looks like (not mine) although I usually keep it in touring mode. Is that what you are seeing?
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Just took delivery last night of a 2019 Satin Steel/Ebony Avenir AWD with tech package and towing. Haven't even had it 24 hours so my experience so far is very limited, but my first impression is that it's a nice vehicle and we're happy with it overall.

I was already aware of the annoying deficiencies that have been discussed in other posts, so I won't complain about them here. I will say though that the lack of interior ambient lighting is worse than I expected. There are tiny, white, dim LEDs in the front door handles and a couple in the front dash, but that's it. Nothing in the rear, nothing in the foot wells, nothing overhead. Very bland and not befitting of this level of vehicle.

Regarding my previous post about the lack of fog lamps, the Enclave has LEDs around the turn signal area so you do get some "coolness". I didn't know this before we took delivery and was pleasantly surprised.

On a nit picky level, I don't prefer the color scheme of the displays. Both the driver display and the infotainment screen are predominantly an unpleasant teal and orange. It looks cheap and downscale compared to most every other brand. Just my opinion though.

Also, the second row seats are flat, hard, and not very comfortable, and the third row seats are even worse. I realize third row seats aren't intended to be great, but these are really bad. Very hard and instead of there being a slight depression to settle into, the center of the seats feel like they protrude upwards. I actually got up and checked underneath me to see if I had sat on something when I first sat back there.

Beyond the known issues and some subjective opinions, it feels solid, handles well, and has met our expectations. Will post updates as we get more miles.

Never thought I would own a GM product so hopefully everything goes well.
Thanks a bunch, this is very helpful. I'm test driving next week andIll be sure to check these items out to see if they matter enough to us to take the Enclave off the list. I appreciate your time to respond. My kids will surely want their seats to be comfy and it could be a deal breaker for them since they spend the most time back there. I once had a car with terrible ambient lighting and I found it does matter at times when you need to find your window button at night, that kind of thing. Another great item to check out. Thanks again!
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I tried the back seats again and for me they are just very uncomfortable. Very hard and definitely don't have any depression to sit in which makes it feel like you're sitting on a bump. Everyone's different though.

Keep in mind that when I was describing the lack of ambient lighting, I wasn't referring to window buttons and such. All the controls are lighted, it's just that there is no overhead, foot well, door pocket, etc. lighting like is found in every other luxury brand and even most mid-level brands. Not a deal breaker but disappointing nonetheless.

I discovered a few more pros and cons.

Cons:
Apparently every time you rotate the tires you have to reprogram all the TPMS sensors with a special tool. I assume a Buick service department can do this, but don't know about other places, and they recommend rotation every 7500 miles. I've had other vehicles with TPMS and this was never required.

None of the seat belts are height adjustable.

The front passenger seat only adjusts 6 ways, not 8 like the driver seat. You can only raise or lower the entire seat instead of being able to raise or lower the front and back separately.

Stop/start really is annoying, useless, and idiotic IMO. Can't wait to get the override module installed.

Android Auto doesn't work, at least not in my particular vehicle. It won't maintain a connection and the screen freezes making it unusable. It works fine in other vehicles with my same phone.

Pros:
When you're filling the tires it'll indicate when the correct pressure is reached by flashing the turn signals.

If it's raining and you have the front wipers on, if you shift into reverse the rear wiper will automatically turn on.

There's a washer for when the rear camera lens gets dirty.

You can set the rear lift gate to open to any height you want (above a certain minimum).

You can adjust the brightness of the rear camera mirror.

The infotainment touchscreen is acceptably quick/responsive.

There are tons of customizable settings so you have a lot of control over various features.
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post #10 of 56 (permalink) Old 02-07-2019, 09:34 PM
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I had a 2015 Enclave and the TPMS system on that car also needed the GM tool to resync the tires after a rotation. I would have the tire pressure scene up on the DIC and while filling a tire I could see the wrong tire changing the value. I know Discount Tire stores have the tool and can do the resync.
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