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post #11 of 19 (permalink) Old 03-29-2019, 11:26 AM Thread Starter
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mtrot, like you, we just went through the process of what to do to replace our 2009 Enclave CXL. My wife really liked the 09 Enclave, and it still runs and looks great at 85,000 miles. We are only parting with it to move it to our daughter & son-in-law, who have a 3rd child on the way and are looking for something to haul their larger family around. We considered the Highlander and Ascent as well. But we found a new 2018 Avenir at 25% below MSRP with 55 miles on the odometer, and that would put a new Enclave Avenir within your budget. We just picked it up, so we don't have any time with it yet, and its my wife's car, but I can tell she is excited having this one to replace the 09 Enclave.


So look around if you opt to go the Enclave route - there are a fair number of them on dealers lots and the dealers are trying to move them off, even if they have to take a loss to do so, now.
Thanks, I did consider a used 2018 Avenir I found in the Austin area at a Honda dealer, which they finally dropped down to $36k. But after getting the new coil and spark plug, my engine is running well enough and I'm going to stick with it for a while. My local Buick dealer is down to their last 2018 Enclave, but they are still not blowing them out like that deal you got.

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One other think to consider when deciding on a replacement CUV is the seating capacity of the 3rd row seat. Unlike our Enclaves, the Traverse and the older Acadias, many of the other CUV's today only have seating for 2 instead of 3 in the 3rd row. For my family, this was a major factor. We wanted the 2nd row captain chairs and 3 across seating for the 3rd row for a total of 7 seats (2-2-3). Some of the vehicles that I was considering when I replaced my 2010 Acadia were the VW Atlas, the Dodge Durango, new GMC Acadia, Mazda CX-9, and the Audi Q7. All these only have room for 2 in their 3rd row. We ended up getting a used Enclave in very good condition and at a good deal. Although I loved the new 2018-2019 Enclave, my wife could not get past the new gear shifter and the start/stop function that could not be disabled... and the price was a little out of our price range.
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One other think to consider when deciding on a replacement CUV is the seating capacity of the 3rd row seat. Unlike our Enclaves, the Traverse and the older Acadias, many of the other CUV's today only have seating for 2 instead of 3 in the 3rd row. For my family, this was a major factor. We wanted the 2nd row captain chairs and 3 across seating for the 3rd row for a total of 7 seats (2-2-3). Some of the vehicles that I was considering when I replaced my 2010 Acadia were the VW Atlas, the Dodge Durango, new GMC Acadia, Mazda CX-9, and the Audi Q7. All these only have room for 2 in their 3rd row. We ended up getting a used Enclave in very good condition and at a good deal. Although I loved the new 2018-2019 Enclave, my wife could not get past the new gear shifter and the start/stop function that could not be disabled... and the price was a little out of our price range.

Thanks for the info! My children are all out on their own now, so I don't really need to be able to sit three people across the back row, two would be fine. A 2-2-2 seating configuration would be ideal. Yes, GM's insistence on making their stop/start "feature" non-defeatable really chaps me.



I'm currently leaning towards the new KIA Telluride/Hyundai Palisade, but still doing research.

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Thanks for the info! My children are all out on their own now, so I don't really need to be able to sit three people across the back row, two would be fine. A 2-2-2 seating configuration would be ideal. Yes, GM's insistence on making their stop/start "feature" non-defeatable really chaps me.



I'm currently leaning towards the new KIA Telluride/Hyundai Palisade, but still doing research.





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We sold my wife's 2009 CXL with 150k miles in January and replaced it with a F150 Supercrew 4x4. Believe it or not, the MPG is not that much difference (average 19-21 mixed driving so far). The ride is obviously rougher, but I bought a 5,000 lb boat 2 years ago and it was really pushing the Enclave to the edge when I had to tow it. The F150 doesn't even know it's back there. Really nice for hauling yard waste with out worrying about scratching the interior or getting it dirty.

I had not replaced the timing belt or transmission in the Enclave so I figured it was a good time to dump it while I could.
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Update:

Well, I thought I would look into possibly replacing my Enclave with a smaller crossover of some sort, so I have been researching and driving a few vehicles over the last week. I spent way too much time watching YouTube videos of various CUVs.



One of the crossovers that seems to get good reviews is the Hyndai Santa Fe. For 2019, the Santa Fe is a new replacement for last year's Santa Fe Sport and the longer, three row model is now the Santa Fe XL. I drove both of them. The Santa Fe XL has a 290 hp 3.3L V6 engine, so it will scoot right along, but it seems to generate its power at pretty high rpm, so it has a bit of a herky jerky aspect to it as it aggressively downshifts to get into the power band whenever you want to accelerate briskly. It is not as isolated from the road as the Enclave and has nowhere near the interior space.



The new for 2019 Santa Fe, in the Ultimate trim level that I drove, is unbelievably loaded with tech and features. It is actually a very nice two row crossover that is between compact and mid size. The one I drove sported the 2.0L turbo engine. With 230 hp, it will move the car fairly well, but there is a fair amount of turbo lag. Still, with the Santa Fe weighing in at around 4,000 pounds, 230 hp just left me a bit wanting. The ride was, again, decent and it was pretty quiet, but doesn't offer the isolation of my Enclave.



So, I'm back to looking at Enclave and GMC Acadia. I today looked at some Certified Used and dealer demo 2019 and 2018 Enclaves and Acadias, which are very nice. Their V6 engines are way smoother and more isolated from the cabin than in the Hyundais. But they are priced from $38k to $43k.



My dealer has a 2015 Enclave I want to look at. Yes, it's out of warranty, but I can purchase an extended service contract that will cover me for about 60k miles. I just need to get out my current Enclave as it needs thousands of dollars of repairs and is under no warranty coverage.



Any other suggestions for crossovers? Thanks.

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Update: New 2016 Enclave Premium in da house!

I just got back home from buying a 2016 Enclave Premium with 38,000 miles on it. It has remaining factory warranty until the end of 2019. I also bought an extended service contract that takes me to 125,000 miles, so that will give me about 87,000 miles of coverage.



This Enclave is just about as pristine, interior and exterior, as I think you will find. It has a bit of that buzz sound when you first hit the throttle from a stop, but I suspect that is endemic to Enclaves once they get some miles on them. Even if it develops into any sort of significant problem, I have coverage.



This 2016 Enclave does seem to ride noticeably more firm than my 2009. And there seems to be more road noise, although some of that may be attributable to the fact that it is riding on Michelin Lattitude Tour tires, while my 2009 rides on Bridgestone Ecopia 422 tires, which are the quietest and best riding tires you can get. The rubber on the Michelins is significantly harder than the rubber on the Ecopias.



I just needed a road worthy vehicle for interstate travel, and could not justify putting any more money into my 2009 that has 169,000 miles on it and needs a lot of repair work.



Here are pics of the new ride, one of which shows the retired 2009.


2019-04-30_05-30-07 by MDTshots, on Flickr
2019-04-30_05-30-39 by MDTshots, on Flickr
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