Thank you so much for the info about your Enclave. I spoke to our technician earlier today and he said they KNOW what's wrong and will have it to us on Monday. He said it is a Body Control Module. Later in the day I sent him the VIN number or your car with the information. He called me back within a few minutes and said they pulled up the car in their system and could see what was done. He said they replaced a number of items over a period of weeks. The last thing that was replaced was theeeeee...Body Control Module. It was helpful to our guys that the car wouldn't start while in their shop.

I'm assuming this will fix the problem based upon the other car. It obviously give us enough confidence to drive the car without the fear.

Thanks again. I'll report back in a couple weeks assuming it works out. Until then, think Body Control Module when your Enclave won't start and stalls in traffic.

(First of all if anybody is wondering, I emailed my VIN number to Maxfli5 so that they could diagnose this problem easier).

I can't recall exactly -- but after they replaced the BCM, the car still had issues -- I think it was ONLY trouble with starting and NOT stalling, but I am not 100%. I know the last thing they did at that point was replace the ignition switch. When I called today the service rep told me that was the last thing he showed as being done. We had the car for several weeks after that and never had a problem from that point on, at which point we decided it was safe to sell, and did so. Good luck

 

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I don't understand what prevented you from just shifting into Neutral when this happened??
Disconnect power to the wheels, let the engine rev while coasting to the sholder. Any automatic can be shifted into N and it will just coast - certainly better than endangering everyone on the hwy while the unentended acceleration is ocurring. Even standing on the brake pedal with both feet would have some impact on slowing the vehicle and be better than hanging on to a run-away.

Please explain why a neutral shift could not be done as this could possibly happen to other vehicles and everyone should be aware of what to do should it happen to them.

Many years ago, on the TV news, there was a women driving through sacramento on the freeway. Her accelerator stuck to the floor and she roared through traffic, swerving etc. I do not recall the outcome, but do remember the newsman asking her why she didn't just shift inot "N". She said she did, but it made such a racket that she shifted back to drive.
Nothing more to say about that. :banghead:

 

Cars have changed so much, I'm almost certain that very few cars have cables from the accelerator to the throttle body. So to say (driver or mfg.) that the accelerator got stuck is most likely hogwash. One phenom is having rear brakes wear out faster than fronts, and as soon as 25k, and for mfgs. to say "that's normal." there are a lot of factors controlling driver input nowadays, of an electronic nature. A car that stalls randomly and can't be repaired in 3X is unacceptable--should be lemoned and sent to the crusher.

 

Hi Everyone,

I have an 08 Enclave. approx. 160 000 kms and I also have a Engine stalls/quits problem. It has happened a total of 4 times, inconsistently/randomly. The most recent was today. My wife was driving and had my 2 year old daughter in the car. It only seems to be happening as the E is coming to a stop at a red light. The engine just shuts off. No lights, chimes or engine codes....

We love our enclave and hopefully this can be resolved. Am I looking at an ECM or BCM issue or maybe something else entirely?

Thanks,

Tony

 

Interesting thread to me because my daughter just called me a couple days ago and said her 2012 Buick LaCrosse(3.6L V6 engine) died in the road after pulling out into a road from a parking lot. She said it would restart and then die several times, dying more quickly each time. So she had the car towed to a repair shop and they said they could not find anything wrong. They claim they checked the fuel pump.

She lives in Dallas and has to drive on the interstate and toll highways there and is very scared to drive it. Maybe the problem is the body control module.

 

Hi Everyone,

I have an 08 Enclave. approx. 160 000 kms and I also have a Engine stalls/quits problem. It has happened a total of 4 times, inconsistently/randomly. The most recent was today. My wife was driving and had my 2 year old daughter in the car. It only seems to be happening as the E is coming to a stop at a red light. The engine just shuts off. No lights, chimes or engine codes....

We love our enclave and hopefully this can be resolved. Am I looking at an ECM or BCM issue or maybe something else entirely?

Thanks,

Tony

Sorry to hear this. I just reread the entire thread here to refresh my memory with the other folks who have had this problem. Sounds like it's the BCM (Body Control Module). One of the people had the ignition switch replaced. See...that is why I don't like all these computer controlled things in our new cars now, like the ignition is electronically controlled. If the battery goes dead, you can't turn it and get the key out.

Side note: I see an odd pattern. If you read back in this thread, ALL of the people making posts about this issue mention kids and/or wife being in the car? Is this an odd coincidence, this is never happening to just a man driving alone? What are these kids riding in the car doing? :eyebrow: Do you think any of their electronic devices that they have these days could be causing interference with the vehicle's electronics? And along that line, how many of these cases had a DVD player (factory or aftermarket, installed in the vehicle) in use at the time? Sounds far fetched, but really has me scratching my head. My daughter now has a Kindle Fire....I'll let you know if this ever happens to me while they have that on. (or maybe I shouldn't risk having it on while driving.... :yikes

 

is the car shutting off without hesitation ? , Meaning it just shuts off like when you turn your key or does the car's rpm starts to hesitate like the fuel its cutting off and then shuts off

I had something similar with my mazda 3 (hesitation and stalling) after I did the air filter and it turn out they had to clean the throttle body , maf sensor and reset the computer ( and other things).

I find with these problems it is very hard to diagnose if they do not happen all the time and if the engine is not throwing any codes , so the more details of how the this stalling is happening the better it is for the mechanic to diagnosed the problem

 

yppas, that seems not only frustrating, but also potentially dangerous. :sosad:

 

Hi Everyone,

I have an 08 Enclave. approx. 160 000 kms and I also have a Engine stalls/quits problem. It has happened a total of 4 times, inconsistently/randomly. The most recent was today. My wife was driving and had my 2 year old daughter in the car. It only seems to be happening as the E is coming to a stop at a red light. The engine just shuts off. No lights, chimes or engine codes....

We love our enclave and hopefully this can be resolved. Am I looking at an ECM or BCM issue or maybe something else entirely?

Thanks,

Tony

I am the original poster of this issue. I will send you a private message shortly and supply you with my Enclave's VIN so that your technician can see exactly what repairs were made that fixed this issue. We sold our Enclave shortly after this problem, we had several issues with ours and were happy to be rid of it.

...and no, females behind the wheel and kids with electronics are not to blame for this malfunction. In my original post I wrote very clearly that the stall happened to the shop foreman as well, while he was driving and doing the troubleshooting.

 

It happened 3 time with myself alone in the car and the latest with my wife. There is no hesitation at all with the engine. It just shuts off. Thankfully it only happens while coming to a complete stop.

Thanks in advance for the VIN info.

Tony

 

It happened 3 time with myself alone in the car and the latest with my wife. There is no hesitation at all with the engine. It just shuts off. Thankfully it only happens while coming to a complete stop.

Thanks in advance for the VIN info.

Tony

Consider yourself lucky! It happened to me on the highway! It IS truly scary, I feel your pain and frustration. Can you imagine it happing when you're trying to cross several lanes of traffic? We are so fortunate this never happened and caused an accident.

I just sent you the VIN. I believe the repair you are looking for will be Nov. 2011.

 

It happened 3 time with myself alone in the car and the latest with my wife. There is no hesitation at all with the engine. It just shuts off. Thankfully it only happens while coming to a complete stop.

Thanks in advance for the VIN info.

Tony

OK, I didn't get that from your first post....you said wife and 2 year old were in the car, so I assumed that there was a reason for you mentioning who was in the car at the time. Otherwise, I don't see a difference whether it's a female or male driving. For example, I wouldn't make a point to say it was ME (a male) driving, or that I had kids in the car....either way, if it's one male, one female, a carload of multiple ages....it makes no difference, it's still a serious situation. It's just funny odd that it seems like the majority, if not all the posts about this issue tend to include (my wife was driving, or my wife and kids were with me, or had my friends in the car). Again...I would be just as pissed if this happened to me driving alone.

EDIT: Looking forward to hearing what the root cause is.

 

Hi Everyone,

I have an 08 Enclave. approx. 160 000 kms and I also have a Engine stalls/quits problem. It has happened a total of 4 times, inconsistently/randomly. The most recent was today. My wife was driving and had my 2 year old daughter in the car. It only seems to be happening as the E is coming to a stop at a red light. The engine just shuts off. No lights, chimes or engine codes....

We love our enclave and hopefully this can be resolved. Am I looking at an ECM or BCM issue or maybe something else entirely?

Thanks,

Tony

Tony,
I would like to apologize for the issues that you are experiencing with your Enclave. I would recommend that you contact GM of Canada in regards to this as well as your dealer. You can contact them at 800-263-3777 Monday-Friday 7:30am - 11:30pm or Saturday 7:30am - 6:00 EST. Please keep me posted and if you have any questions please feel free to contact me anytime.
Thank you,
Stacy Buick Customer Service

 

Tony, Hey I've been thinking more on this, you say it happens when you push on the brake and come to a stop? Wondering, do you have remote start? Perhaps it's something wrong with the part that would shut off the engine if the brake was pushed when the vehicle was remote started. Or perhaps in the ignition meaning, it doesn't recognize that the key is in. May be a stretch but I'm trying to think thru any possible reasons why this would happen only when the car is being slowed and then stopped.

 

Kids,

My 2010 doesn't shut off when I step on the brake. Pretty funny when I remote start, and get in, and forget that I remote started.

 

Just a note, I have been contacted privately regarding this issue many times, another time just today. For future reference, if anybody else has this problem you can contact me and I will supply the VIN so that your technician can see what was done for repair. [/color]

 

Just a note, I have been contacted privately regarding this issue many times, another time just today. For future reference, if anybody else has this problem you can contact me and I will supply the VIN so that your technician can see what was done for repair. [/color]

Thanks for offering your assistance. :thumb:

 

My 2008 Enclave stalled without warning on the 101 in LA last week. Scared me to death. It immediately restarted to only die again and again until I could limp off the freeway. Finally made it into a parking lot where it would stall repeatedly while trying to restart it. The check engine light came on after 3 stalls and so did a stabilitrak warning. I had it towed to the nearest dealership. As I was waiting I found this forum online. I was frustrated to see so many others experiencing the same scary problem as me and very few finding a solution. So after the dealership fixed my car and I have driven it another 500 miles without incidence I wanted to post exactly what was used to fix my car. Here is what was written on my invoice.

Cause: Found multiple codes with faulty throttle body and fuel pump, air inlet tube is cracked.
Correction: Replace throttle body and fuel pump, clean fuel injectors, and temporary fix for inlet tube. Tube is not available and on national back order(they did a temporary fix with duct tape)

Total repair was about $1800 with tax.

Hope this helps

 

Air inlet tube? Is this by the air filter area, or something else?

 

Air inlet tube? Is this by the air filter area, or something else?

He didn't say AIR in his post - just inlet tube.

Would guess it's the according type tube that hooks to the TB inlet. But that's only a guess.

 

I'm glad you got the vehicle fixed! This doesn't sound like the same thing as mine though. I still have my VIN if any future problems occur.

 

Glad that it's fixed, but imho a dealership should not be using duct tape.

The prices to repair this vehicle are alarming, they are either on-par, or exceed the cost of German cars. When I think about it, it can't be parts, must be the number of hours of labor.

Come 2033 when we get a new car, it's Audi time (they'll prolly be over 200k by then)!! Rather spend repair money on a car that is fun to drive...

 

Hello -- I am the originator of this post and I seem to have missed several emails from folks having the same issue. For future reference I am going to leave the details of my vehicle so that repair shops can have access to the records. By inputting the VIN, your shop should be able to see exactly what was done to my car. I believe the stall issue was repaired Nov. 2011. We sold the vehicle shortly thereafter.

VIN 5GAER23718J103824

Repaired at Cavender Buick
17811 San Pedro Ave
San Antonio TX
210-490-2000

The shop manager's name is Robert Hinton. IDK if he is still there.

 

Thanks for sharing the information as someone out there may need that history.
:cheers:
Rick

 

Was your issue ever resolved? I’m on a 10 hour trip at the moment and my 2010 Buick Enclave has turned off 5 times, exactly how you described. Been putting in neutral to start back up after a few tries

 

This exact thing is happening now with my 2013 Enclave. What did you find out about the problem?