[monstersinc1]

GM is not adding a third shift to the Delta Lansing plant where all 3 current Lambda's are built.

http://www.wilx.com/news/headlines/7694102.html

Chevy Lambda to be built at old Saturn plant at Spring Hill, Tenn

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070525/UPDATE/705250451/1148/AUTO01

 

[axiama]

This article seems to be very inconsistant. There's not enough demand for the Lambda's to justify a third shift at the plant. However, demand exceeds the production capacity of a two shift system. There are over 9500 preorders for the 2008 Enclave and dealers aren't accepting new orders until June.

Have they even started production of the 08 Acadia or Outlook? I don't get it. ???

 

[mss42]

My dealer is accepting orders...

 

[Gmoney_2010]

My dealer is accepting orders...

i think my dealer is too

 

[axiama]

I was referring to Coopermine's post from earlier this week. His dealer wouldn't take his order bc GM wasn't accepting orders until June. Maybe this isn't the standard...

 

[mss42]

yes, i was just saying mine is taking orders now...not waiting till june...just strange his dealer is making them wait until june is all.

 

[linuxtwit]

yes, i was just saying mine is taking orders now...not waiting till june...just strange his dealer is making them wait until june is all.

If Coopermine's dealer is fairly small and/or places their orders thru a larger dealer, then its possible that they may not
get allocations until after larger/higher volume dealers get their allocations. Also possible the dealer is just being a
PITA. :tard:

 

[zman]

Or I suppose it's possible that dealers are still taking orders knowing full well that they can not place them yet with GM? They might as well take the customer off the market.

 

[JRacer]

I not sure ordering before June will make any difference anyway. We ordered our's 5 weeks ago and they have only acknowledged received the order. It as yet to be pulled and sent to production!!!!

 

[mss42]

thats one reason i dont understand why not add 3rd shift? despite their thinking apparently 2 shifts is not enough. they seem to be so far behind on preorders already. now, the premier event is on the way and participating dealers have maybe 1 or 2 cars each for testing at the premier. my dealer looked through what they have coming in for allocation and apparently those are tied up in the preorders also. i understand gm perhaps didnt expect this much interest so fast from consumers but wouldnt that be a reason to keep temp workers on for 3rd shift thus insuring car quality instead of rush jobs?

 

[GoTerps]

It seems GM is making a tough call at customer's expense.

While I certainly understand GM's desire to keep their operating costs at a minimum to keep stockholders happy--I actually agree with that practice--GM has an obligation to establish reasonable expectations to ensure customer satisfaction. We shouldn't complain too loudly that some of us can't get a car before it's even officially announced, but we surely can and should complain about imposed delays by GM. GM needs to back away from any advertising suggesting that they put the customer first. GM seems to going for the short term gain and risking customer alienation. Has anyone had a similar experience with a Japanese company? I suspect not...sigh!
:angryfire:

 

[mss42]

not complaining about getting a car before it is premiered. the color or options i want/need are not ready anyway. however, i am concerned that they have a several thousand cars on backlog and the premier is near and the dealers allotments are part of the backlog. so, go figure. now, as a concerned consumer, i want to know when will the cars actually be ready, minus all the backlog, for consumer purchase. in keeping w/the topic here apparently, they do not have enough personel to keep up w/the orders and therefore some are asking why not add the 3rd shift to get quality cars out to the consumer? you can't continue to work 1 or 2 horses overtime and expect them to still put out quality. sooner or later they will give out thus hurting the quality of your product. face it, they need more man power.

as for your question about similar experiences w/japanese companies. all of us here are not american car loyalist and are in the midst of transfering from foreign to american. im not sure about others but i have not experienced this and then i have not followed a car so closely and these lambda's either. i think the excitement of the cars that many have been hoping for and i totally applaud gm for being the first to present them has just overwhelmed those of us lying in wait. its almost like expecting a little one, you are fine until it gets to the last weeks and it excitement builds so until you can hardly wait then the last few days just seem to drag on forever and ever. to some its like christmas, the last couple of days of waiting till the 25th just seems to be forever. although june 14th is around the corner for those of us who are extremely excited it seems to be foreverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

 

[mss42]

If Coopermine's dealer is fairly small and/or places their orders thru a larger dealer, then its possible that they may not
get allocations until after larger/higher volume dealers get their allocations. Also possible the dealer is just being a
PITA. :tard:

that could be true. however the PITA is :rofl:

 

[mrbuick]

According to my dealer when I picked up my Red Jewel last night, GM may have to re-consider not adding a third shift. The demand for the Enclave took everyone by surprise. :thumb:
What they may do is have 2 shifts, plus overtime, so they do not have to commit to the union for a third shift???
Time will tell.

 

[budi]

I would take what the dealer says with a grain of salt. There is a lot of variables in play when building cars. i.e. raw material supply, component parts availability. It is just not man hours for final assembly.

 

[mss42]

According to my dealer when I picked up my Red Jewel last night, GM may have to re-consider not adding a third shift. The demand for the Enclave took everyone by surprise. :thumb:
What they may do is have 2 shifts, plus overtime, so thay do not have to commit to the union for a third shift???
Time will tell.

Yes I agree, I spoke w/Buick headquarters the other day and they said, "yes, they did not expect this big of a demand for the car and thus leading to all these production delays because of supplies demand." go gm gooooo

 

[mrbuick]

I understand that there is a temporary hold on all orders for the CXL Luxury Package, due to a problem with the powered tilt/telescopic steering wheel.

 

[mss42]

yes, not enough supplies.

 

[gbshuler]

Not enough demand for the Outlook, Acadia, and Enclave? Shutting down work? I am shocked. I wonder if this is the real story.

A few years ago I heard a story about a plant with a very high demand minivan. They had two 10 hour shifts cranking them out. Another plant across the street was in the last month of production of a dying line of out-of-date coupe/convertibles. The car company wanted the single shift across the street to come over and create a new third shift. The plant could keep from laying off workers -- and make more minivans with three 8-hour shifts. A win-win for everybody (the workers wouldn't be laid off, the company would make more profit, and ultimately the customers and dealers shorten waiting lists).

The union turned down the proposal. Speculation was the overtime pay for the two 10 hour shifts was too juicy to give up. The workers in the slower plant were laid off.

 

[mrbuick]

yes, not enough supplies.

I think she meant a shortage of parts to build them, not a lack of demand