Is the supplier discount a fixed percentage off of MSRP? I'm eligible but my dealer is telling me he already gave me a better deal (200 below invoice). This is on a vehicle I'm about to order. Is there any way to verify what he's telling me? He's so confident he didn't even check the supplier discount pricing.
GM Supplier Discount Pricing
Called GM Supplier Discount Pricing telephone number 1-800-960-3375 today. Their on hold message now states
"When you save they save .. now everytime GM Supplier Employees purchase or lease a new GM vehicle through the GM Supplier Discount Program they can pass along GM Supplier Pricing to one friend or family member. Supplier Employees have one year from the date of vehicle purchase to request an authorization number. Ask your customer service representative for more details."
So if you know someone who is eligible ask for your discount.
This sounds like it is in addition to the GM Employee Discount eligible people. It must be a new program as the customer service people are not informed of it yet.
"When you save they save .. now everytime GM Supplier Employees purchase or lease a new GM vehicle through the GM Supplier Discount Program they can pass along GM Supplier Pricing to one friend or family member. Supplier Employees have one year from the date of vehicle purchase to request an authorization number. Ask your customer service representative for more details."
So if you know someone who is eligible ask for your discount.
This sounds like it is in addition to the GM Employee Discount eligible people. It must be a new program as the customer service people are not informed of it yet.
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Rosten,
When you are logged in, search for Supplier Pricing -- you'll find a link -- you can go to the Supplier website, put in your supplier code and then build your own to actually get supplier pricing.
Here's what I can tell you -- my dealer told me straight-up that supplier price is several hundred under invoice -- now we're in the suburban Chicago area, so I know they tack on Marketing/Advertising fees to the dealer invoice. If I add that (it amounts to about 2% of the invoice amount), it's several hundred (for many of us, near or over $800 on a $40K plus sticker Enclave); when you add that to the "raw" Edmunds invoice price, your supplier will come in a few hundred less.
The only hitch here is the Conquest money -- some have said their dealers have given them a price close to Supplier and then taken off the $1K Conquest. From what I've read, Conquest cannot be combined with Supplier pricing, but if a dealer doesn't show it sold at Supplier, then they can give Conquest money.
When you are logged in, search for Supplier Pricing -- you'll find a link -- you can go to the Supplier website, put in your supplier code and then build your own to actually get supplier pricing.
Here's what I can tell you -- my dealer told me straight-up that supplier price is several hundred under invoice -- now we're in the suburban Chicago area, so I know they tack on Marketing/Advertising fees to the dealer invoice. If I add that (it amounts to about 2% of the invoice amount), it's several hundred (for many of us, near or over $800 on a $40K plus sticker Enclave); when you add that to the "raw" Edmunds invoice price, your supplier will come in a few hundred less.
The only hitch here is the Conquest money -- some have said their dealers have given them a price close to Supplier and then taken off the $1K Conquest. From what I've read, Conquest cannot be combined with Supplier pricing, but if a dealer doesn't show it sold at Supplier, then they can give Conquest money.
Thanks for the tip. Looks like supplier pricing is a couple of percentage points above invoice so I've actually got the better deal without using it. No telling if the conquest rebate will still apply when I take delivery.
Looking at the Edmunds invoice price and looking at the supplier pricing, I've always seen the supplier price come in about 3% above invoice.
So then, are you both saying then that, they can even go below supplier pricing, without any rebates?
So then, are you both saying then that, they can even go below supplier pricing, without any rebates?
Correct. In fact, while it's pretty much taboo to talk about it, there's also the dealer holdback and a finance credit (on presold orders) that brings his true cost below invoice and helps the dealer's bottom line.marzetta7 said:So then, are you both saying then that, they can even go below supplier pricing, without any rebates?
Personally, I don't have a problem with the dealer making a buck--and I'm going to negotiate for my best deal regardless of how he runs his business. But it's nice to know how things really work when you get the occasional dealer whining about "I'm only making $500, and have to pay all these people and pay for all the overhead..."
Marzetta7,
My Enclave ordered was: CXL FWD, Driver Conf, Lux, Trailer Pkg, Ent#4, 19" Chrome Wheels
MSRP: $42,075
Supplier: $39, 236.95
Edmunds Invoice: $38,645
Now it looks like Invoice is less -- but I won't be hit with the 2% Ad/Marketing amount that will show up on Invoice -- in my case $841.50. Added in that makes the invoice the dealer would show come to $39,486.50 -- or a savings of nearly $300 over "invoice." In addition, my understanding is that they can't add other fees other than Tax, Title, License (here in IL and other places, there are some pretty steep Doc Fees that by law dealers are allowed to charge).
My Enclave ordered was: CXL FWD, Driver Conf, Lux, Trailer Pkg, Ent#4, 19" Chrome Wheels
MSRP: $42,075
Supplier: $39, 236.95
Edmunds Invoice: $38,645
Now it looks like Invoice is less -- but I won't be hit with the 2% Ad/Marketing amount that will show up on Invoice -- in my case $841.50. Added in that makes the invoice the dealer would show come to $39,486.50 -- or a savings of nearly $300 over "invoice." In addition, my understanding is that they can't add other fees other than Tax, Title, License (here in IL and other places, there are some pretty steep Doc Fees that by law dealers are allowed to charge).
ok i need help please,
i am now eligible for supplier pricing so what info do i need in order to get it?
i am now eligible for supplier pricing so what info do i need in order to get it?
https://www.gmsupplierdiscount.com/ip-gmsupplier/MsS42 said:ok i need help please,
i am now eligible for supplier pricing so what info do i need in order to get it?
You will need your company's supplier discount code. Check with your HR department. Once you have that, enter the code from the above URL. You will be required to enter your personal information. Once that is complete, you will receive an email that you bring to the dealership. You can also price your vehicle out using the supplier discount on the above URL. The nice thing about the discount is that the dealership MUST do the paperwork correctly...or the dealership will get **** from the GM bean counters. So in other words, the dealership can't try to screw you over when filling out paperwork. Having said this, it's still best to be alert.
I don't know if anyone else has experienced this, but here on Long Island the dealers are turning me away. It seems that they would rather their allocations be for a more profitable customer. Is this allowed? They told me it is at the dealer's discretion. I don't know but it leaves a very bad taste in my mouth and since this is the car that I've chosen, I really at am at a loss to decide what the next steps to do are. Any recommendations from the group here? Thanks.....
It is up to the dealer's discretion. So, shop around for another dealer. Don't give up.
Hello russ8128, welcome to the forum!russ8128 said:I don't know if anyone else has experienced this, but here on Long Island the dealers are turning me away. It seems that they would rather their allocations be for a more profitable customer. Is this allowed? They told me it is at the dealer's discretion. I don't know but it leaves a very bad taste in my mouth and since this is the car that I've chosen, I really at am at a loss to decide what the next steps to do are. Any recommendations from the group here? Thanks.....
There are plenty of threads talking about this -- and I can give you my own experience -- no dealers in the Chicago area would even talk to you about buying an Enclave for less than MSRP, most of them now have tacked on a "market adjustment" or added crap stuff (like detailing, pinstripes and other junk like that) to pad their profit.
You probably will have an easier time trying to order one at Supplier -- but beware -- and read the threads that talk about "allocations" -- how Buick metes out Enclaves to their dealerships. There are members of this forum that ordered back in April and still have no end in sight to getting their Enclave -- their orders have not moved beyond the initial code 1100.
That being said, I just picked up an Enclave CXL FWD on Thursday after agonizing over the decision and being in Enclave-envy-agony for some time. I found a different color than what we ordered that also had sunroofs, which we didn't want but I was willing to take in order to get the Enclave now and enjoy it instead of waiting another 2 or 3 months before our order was actually built.
My suggestion -- use the Buick.com locator, and widen out your search to 200 or 300 or more miles. If you're willing to drive to get your Enclave, chances are good you'll find a dealer that will make the deal. That's exactly what happened for us. We bought a "hot off the production line" Enclave at Supplier price -- had to drive about 200 miles (3 1/2 hours each way) but it was well worth it.
Good luck and let us know how we can help you.
Thanks....I did speak with my brother who lives in South Jersey... There are some larger dealers down there and I may have some luck there. I will keep you all posted....
Is there a difference between GM Supplier and GMS pricing? What is GMS? I keep seeing that term used on the boards.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Yes, and I noticed the in my proposal from the dealer he it listed (in order from highest to lowest price) - MSRP, GM Supplier, Invoice, GMS. The GM Supplier price matched what I got from the gmsupplier.com pricing page, but the GMS price is actually LOWER than invoice. What is it?
ccaats,
I have the actual invoice from the GM system -- that one, I believe, is the GM employee price.
I have the actual invoice from the GM system -- that one, I believe, is the GM employee price.
Desgnconcpts you are exactly right :thumb:....it is the price for GM employees...which is considerably lower than invoice without advertising fees!
how does supplier compare with costco or other programs? i dont want to go through the hassle of costco if i dont have to--does anyone know which deal is the better of the 2?
Personally, I liked the Supplier program purchase experience. There were no "fun & games" -- I've heard the GM is pretty tight and audits its dealers. Our dealer, GRAND ALLEGAN, in Allegan, MI was terrific -- I worked with Ryan, the general manager. Right off the bat, he faxed the invoice to me and I could see with my own eyes all of the pricing. I also believe they are limited with regard to doc fees (in our case, it was $75 and I think in MI they allow up to $250) and there wasn't any other jazzing around. In fact, we had to review and sign off on a Supplier purchase form that made sure we had read and understood the program. Again, I thought this was very refreshing compared to many other ways to purchase.tide12nc said:how does supplier compare with costco or other programs? i dont want to go through the hassle of costco if i dont have to--does anyone know which deal is the better of the 2?
With Supplier, if the dealer agrees, it is a set price right off the dealer invoicing and I suspect on the Enclave that if you can buy @ Supplier, it will be lower than Costco's price.
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