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Hopefully you guys can help me out. My wife and I have taken a test drive of the Enclave. Its a great vehicle.

We're considering buying one as the 2005 Envoy lease we have comes due in a few months.

We're just not sure what options to buy. Whether to go with the CX or CXL.

I know we want AWD and maybe the beeping option as you back up and come within 10 feet, 5 feet, 1.5 feet of an object out back...

But what else do you guys recommend?

My wife has never been a fan of leather but she might go for it if there is something else in the CXL package over the cl that you recommend.


She doesn't want the sunroof, nav or other music upgrades.

My wife only drives about 5 K miles a year so she is not into alot of technical extras. Most of the time she never uses them (on past vehicles) She forgets how to use them as do I and then its just wasted money.

Give you opinions......if you could.

I realize there are no right or wrong answers but believe it or not I'm thinking CX AWD and maybe the back up beeper...

Are the 19 inch michelins really much quieter than the 18 inch goodyears?

We drove a CXL and we were sold on buying the vehicle...

Traditionally I would have thought the 19's would be if anything noiser than the 18's...but have read it might be the other way around.

What have you guys found? Are the 19's and 18's equal in ride quality and noise?

Sounds nuts but I want my wife to have a nice quiet vehicle such as the Enclave and I would look forward to drive it too when the family travels together...(I'm not a big fan of the body on frame suv's but this crossover concept really has impressed me) or should I say Buick because we drove the infiniti FX35 and I wasn't impressed. Big on the outside small on the inside? Whats that about?

Anyways thanks guys and looking forward to your responses no matter what they are...

Any problems fitting the 201.5 inch vehicle in a two car garage or how about parrallel parking in urban areas ? Does that beeper help?
 

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There are only a few features of the Enclave that are reserved for the CXL model - 8 way power seats w/ lumbar support and heated seats to name a couple. I chose the CX model b/c I prefer cloth over leather and I was able to get all the options that I wanted with the CX.

The interior dash is exactly the same for both models.

I don't know about the 18" vs 19" tires. Maybe someone else can help with that.
 

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I believe the only other item that is standard on the CXL are the memory settings. But if your wife is the primary driver, probably isn't a requirement. If your garage is tight width wise, the Lux Pkg with power folding mirrors could be usefull, but that package is only available on the CXL.

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Due to the dimensions of this vehicle (by far the longest I have ever owned) and small rear glass, we decided to go to Nav system since it comes with rear camera. Due to young kids we decided to go with Leather, I guess that would have been the choice regardless.

I didn't test the rear park assist beepers, so I do not know how useful/helpful they will be when parallel parking in Manhattan or any other borough of NYC. If the last beep is going to alert you at 1.5 feet distance then good luck finding a parking spot here! otherwise the bumper will be all scartched up! Camera on the other hand will give us visual of the whole thing.
 

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Thanks guys.

I did the Edmunds thing where the dealers contact you with pricing? I got an offer of 1500 off a leather CXL and since its costing about 35.5 with leather and the 19 inch rims I thought I'd go with it.

Here is the information on the tire comparision:

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The crossover bandwagon is rolling and it seems everyone is jumping on board. Loosely defined, crossovers are those SUV-looking people-haulers built off car architectures, which usually means a transversely mounted engine, and front-drive when 2-wheel drive is specified instead of all-wheel drive.

Buick seeks to break the mold with a stylish alternative that prizes sculptural body shapes over truck-inspired toughness. To the mix it adds a silky-smooth drivetrain and to top it off, class-leading cabin quiet.

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Which is quite a feat considering that the Enclave shares the same Lambda underpinnings used on the Saturn Outlook and GMC Acadia. The extra care taken in differentiating the Buick from these vehicles means that the Enclave is the last of the trio to market (although about a year ahead of yet another slated for Chevrolet).

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The Enclave's body panels are unique; a single horizontal line starting in the middle of the aggressive waterfall grille circles the vehicle, and all the styling elements − from the curved front fenders to the taper in the rear seemingly hang off this departure point. This sweeping, organic approach to design is carried over into the interior. The dash features three arches trimmed in wood. The vents are elegant ovals, and even the PRNDL readout on the center console is encased in a clear lens, a concept-car touch that never seems to make it into production.

The basic mechanicals are similar to those of the Outlook/Acadia. Power comes from a 3.6-liter V-6 with variable valve timing. It puts out 275 bhp at 6600 rpm and 251 lb.-ft. of torque at 3200 rpm. That power is seamlessly delivered by a 6-speed automatic to either the front or all four wheels, depending on which box you tick on the order form. The fully independent suspension is identical regardless.

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The Enclave comes in two trim levels, CX and CXL, but you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference other than the badging. Both use the same level of trim and include such features as a power rear liftgate as standard equipment. CX models ride on 18-in. wheels and tires and have cloth interiors, while the CXL comes with 19-in. wheels, leather seating and eight-way power seats.

Buick prides itself on its quiet tuning, another point of departure from its sister divisions. The Enclave boasts laminated front door glass, triple-seal doors and additional sound insulation as well as specially designed Michelin tires on the 19-in.-shod CXL (the CX models come with Goodyear rubber). The noise/vibration/harshness (NVH) levels are so low as to be astounding - there is virtually no tire noise from the Michelins. Driving the CX, I was able to pick up some slight tread noise, but in both models, the cabin is quiet and calm, the only sound of note is the healthy rumble of the 3.6 when the throttle is opened wide.

These exceptionally low NVH values are also remarkable when you consider that the Enclave is a very large box, riding on a 119.0-in. wheelbase and measuring 201.5 in. in overall length. That spaciousness translates into comfortable adult-size seating in all three rows with additional cargo-carrying capacity behind the rear three-passenger bench.

Although the Enclave tips the scales at nearly 5000 lb. (4780 in fwd, 4985 in awd), it doesn't feel ponderous out on the open road. The engine provides power aplenty and the tap shift feature on the 6-speed allows you to select and hold a gear on hilly stretches or provide manual sequential shifting if you're feeling in a sporty mood.

The hydraulic power-assisted steering is spot-on, neither too heavy or light - it provides consistent feedback, great on-center feel and ease in parking maneuvers. Other than the tire noise from the CX model and a slight torque-steer tug on front-drive versions, there's nothing that detracts from the beauty and utility of this New Age family transport from Buick. Prices start at $32,790 for the CX and $34,790 for the CXL. A fully loaded model with onboard entertainment, sunroofs and such might push into the low $40,000 range. With the Enclave, Buick has turned a corner and seems prepared to reassert itself in the premium vehicle market.
 

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I feel that if I get the 1500 off I'd go for the CXL AWD.

If I can get the beeping back up option for 500 then I'm ready to go.

I drove the Cxl and was very impressed as was the wife.

(I too have a young child so the leather is a good idea even if the wife is not a big fan of it. I already talked her into it since I got the 1500 discount. )
 

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Sounds like a good deal. What color are you looking for?

I saw a Platinum CXL with regular rims and rear DVD and Driver Confidence pkg where I am trying to work this lease deal. If you are interested, I can refer you to the dealer.

They also have a Red with cloth interior.
 

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JB, The Michelins were designed exclusively for the Enclave to give a more quiet ride. My CXL has the Michelins and they are so smooth and quiet. Also, I recommend the rear park assist which will beep you when you are backing up and getting close to something. That way you don't need the backup camera which I must admit is fun to use. Good luck.
 

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JB, The Michelins were designed exclusively for the Enclave to give a more quiet ride. My CXL has the Michelins and they are so smooth and quiet. Also, I recommend the rear park assist which will beep you when you are backing up and getting close to something. That way you don't need the backup camera which I must admit is fun to use. Good luck.
So in your opinion the rear park assist really assists in parking? Does it beep constantly when the vehicle is within 6 inches of an object? I mean how do you know you are an inch away?

Like I mentioned above I need it for the parallel parking here, and thought it wouldn't be as helpful and therefore decided to get the NAV :confused:
 

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It beeps about every 2 seconds when you are getting close. Also, the side mirrors point toward the curb when backing up. You still have to look and be careful when it starts beeping. I rarely parallel park so I can't how well it works then but the mirrors should help you see the curb.
 

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nothing wrong w/a little added security by having the nav w/back up camera. remember, she's a big girl. if you are a travelling family like we are then the nav will come in handy.
 

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We've had our Enclave for 5 days. Since we ordered it we got exactly what we wanted. Here's one to consider: the center bench substituted for the two captain's chairs gives you an eighth seat with a fold down armrest (with two more cupholders) and it's a minus $411 invoice option. Since getting into the third row is easy with the folding seats why not save the money and get more as we decided? ;)

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Jay - congratulations on your new Enclave(sounds like you should pass out cigars). You sound quite happy with the bench option - I'm glad it works well for you. We have ordered an Enclave and are waiting. We originally were going with the bench option for the reasons you stated, but decided to get the captain's chairs after sitting in Acadias with both setups. We found the center position on the bench quite uncomfortably firm, limiting its utility. In addition, I found the captain's chairs more comfortable than the outboard positions on the bench, primarily because(at least for me) the fold-down center armrest on the bench sat too low to support my arm comfortably. The in-door armrest works well. I've heard several others describe on these boards their individual reasons for choosing different 2nd row setups(including the late availability center console). It's nice that we have options!
 

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Jay said:
We've had our Enclave for 5 days. Since we ordered it we got exactly what we wanted. Here's one to consider: the center bench substituted for the two captain's chairs gives you an eighth seat with a fold down armrest (with two more cupholders) and it's a minus $411 invoice option. Since getting into the third row is easy with the folding seats why not save the money and get more as we decided? ;)

Jay

Jay congratulations. I am totally with you, we originally planned for getting 2nd row bench, but since we still have car seats for the kids, it didn't make sense. You can't fit both seats on the 60% split of the benchse and slide the 40% seat without scratching it. So getting back to the 3rd will require removing both seats then sliding the 40% part.

So it doesnt work for us.

With 2nd row captains we will slide them as much towards the back as possible so getting to the 3rd row will be much easier and hopefully will not require removing the car seats.
 

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so has anyone traded a 2000 Suburban or test driven an enclave and have a suburban? i was wondering because of the backup problems, is the enclave any worse or better? thanks
 

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We were going to go w/ the bench seat because we have two large dogs that ride in the back, and I was worried that w/ the captains chairs, there would be nothing to prevent them from walking right up and sitting in my lap while I'm driving. My husband, less worried about the dogs, wanted the captains seats to keep our kids separated (which has been nice). We went w/ the captains seats because that is what was available, and I didn't want to wait to order a car. The dogs have been shedding so much lately, I haven't let them in my car yet, so I still don't know how that will work out.

The rear parking assist is not as helpful as I had hoped. My husband's Lexus works so that when he is close to an object (rear and front), an image of the car shows up on the screen w/ indicators of where he is close (front and rear, and which corner...left or right). W/ the Enclave, it just beeps. I don't know where I am close to something, necessarily, and it only works for the rear of the car. Prabably not more than I should have expected, but I was used to how my husband's works. I do love the backup cameral though, and think that is a great feature.
 

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there is a portable gate that would keep the dogs in the rear.
 
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