I can guarantee there will not be a hybrid of the current Lambada platform. I have confirmation from two GM engineers (one in Detroit, the other in my backyard in CT where GM's sales office is now located in the Corporate Center in Danbury) that the first generation platform does not have the space necessary to put in a hybrid platform. Substantial changes to the unibody design would need to take place for that to happen.Plague said:I think that if there is going to be a hybrid version of it, it should be available at more levels than just the Caddy level. If they want to put a V8 into this, I think that could be Caddy only.
We have an auto environmental show in my town in CT every year, and it coming up again this year in a few weeks. From the show last year, the engineer said that the problem is that a small 4 cylinder and hybrid would not give the torque necessary to move the car well enough. Need a small V6 which GM does not have right now to fit the engine bay with the hybrid motor - and on top of that, under the chasis, there is not enough room for the transmission (I don't know about this - just repeating what he told me). GM is interested in making it hybrid capable in the future, but not this generation. It was too bad, I was asking for selfish reasons as I wanted a Chevy or Buick hybrid - but knowing one was not in the cards, got the V6 instead in 2010.admin said:Thanks for the inside info, AcuraT. Although I'm a bit surprised to hear that. I mean, the Ford Escape has a hybrid version and it's practically half the size of the Lambdas. You would also imagine dropping down to a small 2.5 litre engine would allow enough space for a battery pack and electric motors, but obviously the engineers know better than me.
I agree kids, if it can't come with a V8, and isn't near the Escalade in tow capacity it'd have to be with another Cad nameplate. Perhaps the gen-2 Lambda platform (coming in '13?) might be designed with these capabilities.kidsenclave said:I don't think this vehicle will ever come to be. That photo is very old, and just a photoshop of an idea what a Cadillac Lambda would look like. It would have to be MUCH better than that to be taken seriously. IF it happens, people have said they don't think it will be called Escalade, and think that's a terrible idea for the Escalade to move away from body on frame design. I'm neutral on the idea. IF Cadillac builds this it needs to have a V8, needs to be able to tow more than the other Lambdas, and needs to be AWD standard, etc. BUT, for now...the Enclave is king of the Lambdas, so to speak. :blob:
if they developed a turbo diesel they would not need a v8....my Bluetec can tow 7500lbs.rpasetto said:I agree kids, if it can't come with a V8, and isn't near the Escalade in tow capacity it'd have to be with another Cad nameplate. Perhaps the gen-2 Lambda platform (coming in '13?) might be designed with these capabilities.
Plenty of torque on diesels... but I'm not sure a turbo diesel would outperform a V8 in HP at the high end.sciond said:if they developed a turbo diesel they would not need a v8....my Bluetec can tow 7500lbs.
no it won't, but you mostly you stay in the lower rpm range... and what I was saying is they could fit that in a Lambda and get comparable towing ratings and much better mpgrpasetto said:Plenty of torque on diesels... but I'm not sure a turbo diesel would outperform a V8 in HP at the high end.
Enclave V6 3.6L VVT V6
Horsepower: 288 @ 6300 RPM Torque: 270 @ 3400 RPM
Mercedes Spec: Turbocharged Diesel V6 3.0L
Horsepower: 210 @ 3400 RPM Torque: 400 @ 1600 - 2400 RPM
Cad Escalade 6.2L V8
Horsepower: 403 @ 5700 RPM Torque: 417 @ 4300 RPM